Hi just been reading the posts between you Jules and Centralscot & so many others today. Ooh it makes me so sad and angry the vile way any addiction sucks in both the addict and their loved ones, family etc. The irony is that while the addict is “zoning” out on their distance of choice we, the loved ones, the family, parents etc have to try and keep themselves sane and strong. I get the feeling of desensitisation. I am so fed up pleading with my son, going over the same old things time and time again. Listening to his false promises, being so full of hope only to see him relapse time and time again. I’ve told him I’m not getting any younger and now can’t and won’t put my own life on hold while he decides when he is going to do what he has to do to ‘qualify’ for yet another rehab. Follow the advice from all on this forum. Stay strong, look after you. Hugs x