[brian]

Thanks Susie, we wont give up on him, but neither will we tolerate certain behaviour. i have come to the conclusion that there is nothing my wife or I can do apart from love him. he is an adult and has to make his own life style choices. in relation to his self harming and suicidal thoughts i suspect that these may have been caused by the drugs he has taken which have messed up his brain, but who knows? What i do know is that we are powerless unless he genuinely comes to us for help, and for that happen he needs to know that we will always be there for him. he is nowhere near as bad as some on here but I can see the path he is taking and pray that he will start to claw himself back. Thanks and we must all stay strong. good luck x