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Thank you. Seriously give al- anon a try, my husbands wasn’t really alcohol but they take partners of any addiction really because the behaviour of all addicts is the same regardless of the substance. Bare with it because at first it seems bonkers, but it does work if you commit to the programme xx
b8988ParticipantHi there sorry this thread is old ish now, someone replied recently to start it being active again.
Basically I ended it with him when he was living with his mum because I caught him lying about not using drugs, he had even started taking E’s. I guess anything would have done just to numb him. Anyway for the first time I backed away, I told him to enjoy being single. Then after days of me not speaking to him he started begging me to give him one last try and said he would do anything to get me back. He was sobbing, he even went into his mums work crying as he truly believed I’d not have him back.
Anyway that was 4 and a half months ago! He has been clean ever since. I’ve even trusted him on a night out, not to drink and he didn’t! Plus he said lads he knew was doing coke in the toilet and he could have easily got it but he didn’t want to as where would it end?
I go to al anon which has been a god send as it teaches you to look after yourself, something I didn’t know how to do. I attend counselling and we both have started to try to rebuild our relationship with marriage counselling. The marriage counselling has been an eye opener. I learnt we were both in a drama triangle. Where we both took turn to play the victim and then persecutor.
I am fully aware that I can never relax as relapse is possible at anytime. But I’m working so hard on building up myself that hopefully if that happens I’ll be strong enough to just focus on myself. Unfortunately you can’t stop or prevent them from doing what they are gonna do. But you can begin to minimise your heartache.
Sorry I don’t have FB but feel free to message on here x
b8988ParticipantHi vixen, gosh! I just read your post. That’s awful!
Problem is I’ve been with my husband 17 years since we were teens. I never had an reason to doubt him mainly until we had a huge fight last February and I hit him with a mug, over me catching him using drugs. He was so deep in then and our relationship has been awful for months because his behaviour had been so erratic.
He literally made his mind up that I was the reason for everything bad in his life. He tried to move on adding loads of random girls on fb, telling them that I was abusive etc. He even invited himself round to one girl’s house but she said she knew he was off his face and spent the time there running me down!
In my case it’s not so black and white as just cheating! As for the 5 years he hid the coke from me there was never any issues with women, it’s only when I started throwing him out and fighting with him he started noticing other women. Our counsellor said it’s acting out.
Cocaine makes people horrible and selfish though. I guess that’s to do with the frontal lobe damage, the part of the brain that affects the decision to make good choices. Ultimately it was down to him choosing the coke over me and his kids. I think I’m my husbands case he knew what he was doing was wrong but couldn’t or didn’t want to stop so decided to distract himself as his self esteem was low.
Off drugs I do trust him, however I just don’t know what goes through his mind on these drug binges when he thinks the worlds against him! He said he’s never felt like actually sleeping with anyone else. He said it makes you horny but not enough to cheat!
b8988ParticipantHi thanks for that. We’ve been getting along so well lately. He’s 4 and a half months clean. We have attended marriage counselling and the marriage counsellor seems to think all my husbands behaviour is acting out. It’s finding the reason why he started acting out in the first place so we can tackle that, although he seems to think it’s unresolved issues from his childhood.
I think the cocaine addiction made our relationship toxic so in his drug fuelled mind he was looking to escape. Women were a distraction, but I don’t think he would cheat. Although at times if it came down to me or the coke when he was deep in his addiction, he’d choose the coke. So if women started showing him attention, he started flirting I think to make himself feel better, because he knew what he was doing was wrong, but couldn’t stop! Plus he’s also said deep in his addiction he blamed me for everything wrong with himself, that way he didn’t have to stop and look at what he was doing.
The drug was mainly controlling him at times, now I know, no matter what I’d have done wouldn’t have worked. I guess they have to reach that point for themselves. I left him for a week with no contact and he was hysterical. He said he’d finally realised that I was being serious and it terrified him. So all the times I chased him, only enabled him.
b8988ParticipantHi Hun, sorry I’ve read some of your previous posts. I too am married to a cocaine addict who’s currently in recovery but I feel for you. I know how awful they can be. I think you’ve done the right thing. No one deserves to be treated the way you have, I know it’s terribly hard but do your best to look after yourself. I’ve recently joined al-anon as there isn’t many drug support groups for families in my area but they are all the same, working the 12 steps. It’s nice to meet others who are going through the same as you. I’m sure your journey with your partner won’t just end here, unfortunately with addicts we have to ride the storm of their ups and downs. Whilst he was vile last weekend I’m sure he will soon have periods of being normal/nice, this is when you may be tempted to go back. You just don’t want it to keep being repeated over and over again. This is the situation I have found myself in.
Keep strong (you’ve got this!)
b8988ParticipantThank you so much for writing this, it is very touching. I’m the wife of a cocaine addict, I like your partner chose to stay with him and try and support him but it’s a long battle and I’m not sure he can win, if I’m honest, but I appreciate this post to educate others.
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b8988ParticipantI don’t think this site lets you post links.
Google 5 lies told in active addiction. On a site called addiction campuses
It made it really clear to understand.
When someone you love has an addiction, by hey sigmund.com is really interesting too. If you love an addict you’ll soon know every website on addiction lol.
I wish you all the best x
b8988ParticipantIt’s part of the addiction hun, my husband had 6 months clean last year but I’d still catch him lying about little things. I think it becomes second nature to them.
I read a post on a different site from a ex addict where she said when you’re in active addiction your lies don’t feel like lies, you see others as stopping you from having fun. Apparently it’s not denial as denial is accepting there’s a problem but downplaying it. Delusion is a better description, they are delusional in their beliefs.
This link here explains it perfectly
https://www.addictioncampuses.com/blog/5-lies-i-told-in-active-addiction/
b8988ParticipantAhh that’s nice advice Dan, see that shows how you’re changing too, for the better. Someone still in active addiction would disagree with what we said or downplay it.
I’ve said this loads of times, we love the addict but hate the addiction.
As you say it’s very different if you have lots of memories, years together and kids with the person.
b8988ParticipantSprint even! Lol
b8988ParticipantHaha hi, I suggest you read some of our posts on here over the last few weeks.
If you aren’t madly in love with him, I’d run like the wind!
My husband was fab for 13 years before he touched a drug, then tried coke and my and his life is now a living nightmare. The difference between coke and say heroin etc. Is it is a sneaky addiction, often addicts function well and to the outside they’d never assume someone is an addict. Try living with one though and you’ll soon know.
My husband would use in our home, despite massive arguments and him swearing on our kids lives he wouldnt, hadn’t, he’d use when he was in charge of looking after them, driving the car with our children inside. The mood swings are the worst, my husband hid his addiction from me, I thought he was bi polar, one minute they are kind of normal, the next you’ll be accused of all sorts, if they can’t find anything on you they’ll make stuff up, my husband called me a slut because I’d slept with other men before I’d met him. Never a problem in the whole of our relationship, but suddenly it was! Thats because he felt low about what he was doing and needed to deflect the attention away from his drug use!
He used to be a fab dad, then he became withdrawn, he’d want to stay in bed in the mornings and never want to go anywhere with us, if he did it was obvious he didn’t want to be there. They lose interest in everything and everyone apart from cocaine! They will have no empathy for anything they do to you, you could cry and cry in front of them and no compassion will be shown, you’ll be told to get a grip!
You’ll see all this for yourself if you agree to stay with him and he doesn’t get help. See they agree they want help, they go for a few weeks, then the excuses will start and they will convince you that they don’t need to go anymore, that even if they were offered it on a plate, they’d refuse it, as it’s different this time, but it never is.
You’ll become crazy, your identity will fade away, the drug not only consumes the person who takes it, but it will take you down with it too. You’ll obsess whether he’s used or hasn’t used, whether he’s lying or not. You’ll question everything and everyone. You’ll believe all the stupid stories he will make up, he will go to great lengths to prove to you that he’s telling the truth, you’ll question yourself as he will make you believe you’re going mad! But he won’t be telling the truth, not now not ever!
Coke is the most horrible drug, it will turn the warmest of hearts into ones of stone.
b8988ParticipantYes bluebell, that’s the problem with us, we will always be sceptical but for good reason. We have heard all the “it will be different this time!” A million times before. Proofs in the pudding as they say!
Your husbands mood seems all over the place at the minute, I’d deffo say that points to him still being in active addiction. My husband used to cry if I threatened to leave him one day, then be vile to me the next! That’s when he was deep in it, I guess the more you use, the more irrational your behaviour.
b8988ParticipantHi there, first off the fact that he did 2 and a half years sober is amazing! I’ve just gone through relapse with my husband for cocaine, although he was only sober for 6 months. He did it off his own back and didn’t attend meetings, which at the time he said he could easily dismiss the cravings, until he was faced with it and couldn’t refuse. He didn’t tell me he’d relapsed, I guessed! He denied it which made me furious! like you I questioned (if he’s had a period without) why wouldn’t he have thought about us etc and said no?
The truth is, addicts are addicts for life, there is no cure, just management. I could have handled my husbands lapse better though. I threatened divorce the day he used again, i then brought up a lot of stuff he’d done to me in the past and he said it made him feel like scum! Instead I should have encouraged him to get back on the wagon and praised the time he spent clean. He then went back on it hard and this resulted in me asking him to move away to sort himself out, he’s only been away two weeks and started using pills (ecstasy) and then coke again. So I ended the relationship properly, since then he’s been almost suicidal and cries everyday saying he can’t lose me. Now I’m back to square one. It’s a never ending battle unfortunately.
I’d suggest if I was you, to encourage him and praise him so he doesn’t feel worse, but tell him you expect him to get straight back into being clean. Suggest he attends meetings regularly to help him stay clean, if he wants a relationship with you. You need to call the shots, otherwise they just look for excuses to carry on using. My husbands are; he uses if he’s happy (like a celebration) if he’s sad, if he’s bored, if he feels guilty, etc. Basically he self medicates.
b8988ParticipantMy husband is saying he can’t continue without me, saying if he had to lose me for good he might as well be dead. He’s cried for 3 days and apparently went to a meeting at a church last night and they told him he was the reason why I’d left and he needs to take responsibility for his actions and be nice to me and lose the chip off his shoulder, he said he cried in there too, in front of everybody, he said the penny dropped and he realised he can’t live without me.
To me though actions speak louder than words, I know he loves me but that’s not enough, not this time! I can’t risk it all again when I’m just picking myself up. I suppose only time will tell what the outcome will be, so I know what you mean Bluebell x
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