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Glad to hear Eva and I can relate to the sugar Light, I ate loads yesterday!

My tempreture is settling slightly although still getting slight shivers, its almost like Im getting used to the physical feelings, theyre nowhere near Day 2 – 4 but still there allbeit not as strong.

Head is okay, I feel determined and positive but I know what you mean Eva, head frog comes and goes.

Hope we all have an easier afternoon. Whats everyone up to this evening / next week?

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Completely agree and understand Eva. How are you feeling today?

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Hey Eva good to hear from you – Yeah it is making me happy and positive that Im making the change and hopefully others notice a change without knowing the reason behind.

How are you feeling today? Did you manage to sleep last night any better? Sending hugs x

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Afternnon all just a quick checkin to see how everyones doing 🙂

Im married and live with my wife and daughter, they dont know, Ive passed it off as flu. Its not that I want to lie but I feel Im protecting her by not telling her, is that wrong?

Im felt closer to her this week most likely because Im not a walking zombie on a high. Oddly sex drive has been very high, when I was on 20+ tablets a day it didnt even enter my head. Not trying to be crude or anything but for me its just such a random given the other symptoms?? X

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Hey Eva – Yeah similar things, I’ve put a little mini list below of symptoms Ive had so far up to right now as I type:

Flu like symptoms – Aches and general muscle fatigue (especially back and ribs)

Sniffles & Sneezing

Headache (like a dull ache not painful)

Nausea – A bit like when you get of a rollercoaster or theme park ride

Hot Flushes then really cold again

Cold Sweats (with Shivers)

Hard to get to sleep

Yawning

Head Frog

Constant mental battle, need more, no dont do it, just once, no dont do it etc etc

Those are my main ones really, things Ive tried thats helped me personally and gave me positivity so far:

Keep busy / occupied – This I think is the most important

Positive music – In earphones if possible

Calming / Meditation music

Baths with lavendar and low light

Green and Camomile tea

Lavendar LUSH products such as Sleepy body lotion

Sleep spray on my pillow to help with sleep – I got mine from Aldi

Sweet cups of Yorkshire Tea 🙂

Window shopping online to keep me motivated from a financial perspective

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Ps. Oh my god Ive just realised I’ve had sneezes too! These symptoms are so random, sneezing combined with yawning consistently – Thanks for being there again guys, no one close to me knows about what Im going through so its good to have an outlet on here and dont think I would have made it as far without the support from you all.

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Hey all thanks for the support and messages – Still staying strong. What gets me most is that around 15 years ago I got off a 2 year crack cocaine addiction with no problem, similar in a lot of ways but I guess that kind of addiction is a little different, I cant remember the mental side being as tough as in being in your head 24/7, so bizarre.

I think because I’m tapering its making the physical side easier as really I just had have the odd stomach churn, a slight headache and a few other aches, plus random hot shivers, or like sweating but feeling shivery.

I’ve pushed myself today, had my normal morning dose at 9am (90mg) and not had any since, previous days since last Sunday I have had 90mg at 2pm but I’ve skipped that today to again try and push myself.

Eva – From now on it must be referred to as head “frog” remember 🙂 Just trying to give you a little smile 🙂

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Afternoon all, today is tough mentally, staying strong though, going to have a honey and camomile tea and a sandwich, might chill me out a bit. Hope everyone is okay x

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Thanks Eva – The main thing is youre trying and giving it your all. I still cant get over how much youve been through but still having the commitment to stay on track, keep it up you arevdoing great and all the right thing. Not going to lie Ive found it mentally a bit tougher tonight plus I have a pulled muscle in my back which obviously never used to bother me but I know about it now, been tempted to have just a couple extra but staying strong. Ill check in tomorrow, do you have any plans for the weekend?

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Hey Eva good to hear from you, Ive been thinking of you today and windering how you were getting on. Sorry to hear you have had a rough day – Do you think it could be covid symptoms too? I think youve done amazing so far, keep strong. Its okay to be scared and anxious, have you tried listening to some calming music? Ive been drinking camomile tea which has helped with the anxiousness and fidgets when Im at a loose end. Also lavendar baths or bath salts in a dim lit room. May not be your thing but just throwing out a few of my tactics 🙂 Stay strong you are winning and it will get better! X

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It is hard to start with, but I think when you realise you can do it once, as in one day, and you are prepared to have the flu / cold you can do it. The way I try and do it is to set times, so when I get up I have one hour before my first dose and then I can settle a bit mentally, dont get me wrong the mental and physical for the first few days is hard, but bearable, then if Im getting jumpy I look at the clock and tell mysel “not until 2pm”, I then try and find something to do, whether it be round the house, go for a walk, gardening, online window shopping etc, then it might be 1pm and its easier then as you can see its only an hour to wait and youve done more than that up to that point, it will hurt and be tempting to “cheat” but try stick to your plan, yesterday as I say I stretched to 5pm, purely on the fact that physically I was coping, still hurting, but coping, so I wanted to push myself with the knowledge I’m in my window and I’m “allowing” myself to have some if I want, but I chose to push.

Everyone is different and everyone will have their own preferred way, I think the key is not to cheat yourself, focus on your times / doses and stick to them, when you do it you’re pleased with yourself and I think that then reinforces the will to carry on because you’re getting that positive mental feedback.

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Hey Kaleidoscopic – Yeah the money thing was one if not thee reason for doing this, I could see me taking more and more as the weeks went on and like you thinking why I have I no money at the middle of the month, Id then look back and see the weekly amounts which were insance.

I got paid today so its even more incentive now to carry on as I’ve done a budget for myself and going to try be more sensible with money, or should I say “I am” going to be more sensible with money.

Will take a while to claw back but this isnt a race and Im pointing in the right direction which I think is helping mentally as I feel generally happy with myself and pleased with myself that I’m doing this and sticking to it.

I’m planning on dropping to 60mg on Sunday, feel a little weary overy it but to be honest I am feeling better today, yesterday I stetched from a dose at 8am right up to 5pm, normally I would do 8am – 2pm – 8pm, yesterday was 8am – 5pm – 10pm.

I’ve read that its best to leave the evening / night cut down till last, that way you can still sleep and your body recovers quicker and deal with the withdrawals in a better way.

Stay strong and dont worry to much about the leg thing, I have that anyway lol as does the wife, I dont even notice it half the time 🙂 Gym is going to be a good thing for you especially for endorphins and happiness, guarantee you will come out feeling good backed by what you’re doing to get off this crap 🙂

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Morning both – How’s things today? I’m feeling okay, chills and temperature seem to be getting more stable, my back is aching but it definitely feels like an improvement, the mental side is still there, I guess this will take a little longer but I’m feeling happy and positive with the changes so far and not mention the money side of things, trying to keep positive 🙂

Hope you’re both okay and things arent too bad.

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Sounds like a slight improvement then Eva! 🙂 Day 7 will be Sunday for me, well 1 week, Im then going to go to 60mg in the same pattern. Keep up the great work!

Ps. Not sure on your music taste but I found a good motivational song today, Jonathan Roy Keep Me Alive, best version is the live one on you tube. Ive found finding songs has helped alot with motivation 🙂

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Ps. Yes taper for me is the only way, 5 years of addiction and dependency at 800mg a day so need to take it slow.

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