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January 14, 2021 at 2:40 pm in reply to: Cocaine addiction. Is there a light at the end of the tunnel? #20499dre80Participant
I stayed for months with a cocaine addict, he made the speech to stop, because it was bad, it doesn’t help at work etc, and he even went to a psychiatrist and takes medication, however, it is for secondary gain, for him to adapt his addiction to the routine without so much declared loss. Because there is a moral issue, which they lose in the brain, I read so much about it. They lose their sense of morality, judgment, and security. So, he even said he wanted to stop, but the facial expression was manipulated, they are excellent manipulators. The pleasure is as great as the risk. He thinks it is normal, but as society condemns, he needs to mask it so that the partner and I at the time, we would not find him a vagabond (he dethrones the idea of finding vagabond those who use drugs). But as long as he himself, does not realize that he is doing real harm, or does not suffer from an overdose etc. by drinking also with the drug, they will not want to leave. It is an endless cycle, yes, there are reports here of a boy who was 7 years old, some 10 years old, with an addict, and there are only ruins in that. I was only 5 months with one, and it was complicated, he was always tired, he always had no money to help with snacks, and he passed me STDs. They are malicious and opportunistic. You only lose, because you think that the nice part of them supports the relationship. He runs away from therapy, and I tell you that even with it, and medicine, if he doesn’t want to, he won’t give up cocaine! the reward it brings is huge, I went to the doctor with him, and he manipulates the doctor !! it is one of the worst addictions I have ever seen, I am in the health area I am 40 years old, he is 40 years old, and it will not change, it will only get worse, and you will go along. My friends, even one of them, a psychoanalyst, told me that, because the center of morals, rewards, his judgments, is annulled by the use of the drug, it is no joke. I moved away from him in November, and I still think about him, but due to my lack, because he was toxic, lazy, in bed it didn’t work anymore. I don’t want this for you, you don’t deserve to be a drug addict’s nanny! please look here for a story called: 7 years with an addict, read if this is what you want .. Don’t fall for it. It will hurt, because I liked the good part of it, but he had no desire to have anything serious except with cocaine. I miss him, but they don’t really like anyone, cocaine leads to empathy though, there are articles about it.
Look, can I tell you honestly? I once heard the exact phrase here: if you have no children with him and nothing that ties you to him, run like the wind.
dre80ParticipantI stayed for months with a cocaine addict, he made the speech to stop, because it was bad, it doesn’t help at work etc, and he even went to a psychiatrist and takes medication, however, it is for secondary gain, for him to adapt his addiction to the routine without so much declared loss. Because there is a moral issue, which they lose in the brain, I read so much about it. They lose their sense of morality, judgment, and security. So, he even said he wanted to stop, but the facial expression was manipulated, they are excellent manipulators. The pleasure is as great as the risk. He thinks it is normal, but as society condemns, he needs to mask it so that the partner and I at the time, we would not find him a vagabond (he dethrones the idea of finding vagabond those who use drugs). But as long as himself, does not realize that he is doing real harm, or does not suffer from an overdose etc. by drinking also with the drug, they will not want to leave. It’s just empty talk …
dre80ParticipantThat’s was my concern with the guy I met, 5 months with him. They are manipulative, seduce us… I was afraid to get more curious about cocaine..and tell him to use in my house or something… I never saw he using… but I was getting curious about how he gets high with cocaine.
They are not good influence at all… cocaine will destroy you, your nose, brain, health, money …heart. And they have no loyalty, only to cocaine. AND he gave me presents, disease..sexual one. Get out of this soon as you can. You have no kids and once I heard here… run like the wind.
dre80ParticipantHe plays the victim…
Yeah, this is abusive…and tires a lot the psychological.
But I admire you for your wisdom and strength.
dre80ParticipantOh my, what an answer!
I was reading and reading again. So much truth in words.
Yeah, they know what they’re doing, when the ex bite me, he knew what he was doing, and that hurt because got the mark and purple…
If they want they stop, they don’t care.
And we have to take care of ourselves, and ok stone…about the thoughts about them, I try to not fight against but to say… he was manipulator, an addict in a serious drug like cocaine and alcohol, and was my illusion to stay with him. It was my lack, I don’t like to be alone and I have to learn enjoy my company, lets try to do this David.. I’m doing things for myself, prayed, and we gonna make it. We gonna be strongers like stone, to pass through this, and be with someone who deserve us and treat us with a lot of respect. I’ll be accurate about man now…
dre80Participantif in 7 years she thinks she hasn’t reached rock bottom yet, difficult, they will hardly assume to be so bad, only if a health hazard occurs, and even so, as thelostone said, they go back to drugs, she is stronger that they! this ex of mine, he said he used it for 5 years, then 7, and he is super ok with it. He just went looking for a doctor and medicine, because the partner told him about negligent behavior at work, he takes the medicine for nothing, I believe, maybe it will even give a good feeling hhaa … seriously, because I doubt that without therapy, strength of will, initiative, they get something. You have been addicted to it for 7 years, and you can meet someone nice, as already said here, you are special and waste life with someone who decides to die a little every day. Try to get to know other people, I’m trying to do this, lightly, talking to friends. And my friend never told me to stay with this ex, he said, get out of it, he’ll sink you in it because that’s what everyone does. Just read the posts here. You need to fix your life and not hers, move around your house, and ask every day … for strength to let go of her. I was impacted in months, I know it is not simple for you these years, but if you start looking at yourself, investing in that energy … it will be left aside. I took the advice of thelostone, love me, and overcome him day by day in the mind that he was horrible, terrible in bed, did not help me with snacks, we just walked out 2 times in 5 months, he bit me, he disrespected me talking with others while with me, pampered, allowance at 40 please, and he was not interested in me. He had some gentle gestures, but to manipulate … think about the bad part, that right now she is not even there for you, or they would be fine now. Sad, but when you get angry at it, and see that you lost your life, you forget about it. I hope this happens.
dre80Participantit’s addiction David, she’s your drug. So you need to abstain from it. And yes it is difficult, yes, I physically stayed away from the drug addict, but because he wanted it too, I stopped being a supply. You are also no longer a supply to her, or she would be with you and not the drug. You want someone who wants you, it’s almost like a pride of ours: as he / she doesn’t want someone who helped, renovated the house, who paid for dinners here, who gave rides … it’s a sense of value that we should have, but not from them seeing that value. I understand better, thanks to God and Stone q also helped me, and she talking to you helps me a lot, that you need to get a sense of value to do something else in life, invest in a friendship (I “nag” a friend venting to her, knowing about her also helps me. I have two cats that distract me. And I also think of the guy who hugged me on the couch here, who had dinner with me, fun, friendly, mega fun, handsome, it makes me angry that he is an opportunistic selfish drug addict !! takes the bad part and puts a magnifying glass on. You have more disadvantage than advantage. Even if, if you had more advantage, we wouldn’t be here talking about it, you would be happy with her, walking, even having kids having fun and laughing together.
dre80Participant“I often think the only thing I can trust her to do is break my heart again and again.”
“Why was I fighting for? An abusive angry moody unreliable dishonest weak junkie. No thanks. Rather be alone then unhappy. The peace of mind is priceless.”
Uauuu, I’m learning a lot about self value here, who could imagine that, after a junkie didn’t want to be with me anymore, I would have a lot of lessons about self worth. Great !! I’m so thankful.
And David, like stone said, is not worthy spend time helping them. Maybe you have to see as I trying to do, to find the sense of your life and this hole that should not be fulfilled by a selfish woman! If we try to love ourselves more, as I trying to do, you will se that will be less space for them. Step by step…
And if you write that you have for sure that she would break your heart again and again, that’s true, they don’t not what is love, because they kill themselves every day, each use of this drug, and yeah.. would be nice that drug dealers not exist.
Do something ???? take note of this thoughts, the bad things, and read out loud, our friend stone she made it, 3 years uuuhuuu.. make efforts for you, be selfish, you deserve it, buy things for you. I’m doing this..trying, and yeah, 5 months thank God, but don’t let this steal your life another year ok?
dre80Participantfriend, i’m also empath, solicitous, and i deliver more than they give me and yes, waiting for a return. But with them, this return cannot come, for me it didn’t come in 5 months, only heartbreak and crumbs. Unilateral indeed. I remember that 2 months ago, he was in the kitchen with me, just talking about him, tiredness, company, family, I thought: wow, isn’t he just talking about him all these months? I don’t like it anymore, he talks almost as if alone too, he wouldn’t even need me, .. and I thought about finishing. Well, here I am, to tell you that for them only cocaine is enough, there is no human relationship that is of satisfaction to them, only by manipulation sometimes, and selfishness. Why surrender to someone who doesn’t see you? can’t you count on her? they only think about them, because the drug removes empathy, and you would only be useful if it could smell you. It sounds like a joke, but that’s what I thought about me ok? now it is freeing the mind as our friend says, stone .. who gave us precious advice. I put myself in your place, because I am loving too but we cannot babysit two manipulative adults. To choose much better in the next person, if there is someone like us in the world, who is dedicated, we can meet someone who is dedicated to us too. There is the frustration of having given so much, to someone who gave almost nothing, it irritates me a lot, but we deserve something much better. You deserve.
dre80ParticipantMend… I’ll look right now.. 🙂
Yeah, he was flirting as with me, just one girl he said that was with someone (me), but because she was very needy on him…
Just because of the diseases, he is a bad bad man… that’s why I “was” (I’m gonna put that way) punishing me for being so … aff.
“Accept the pain…try to block him on all fronts”, he will not care, but this will be important to me.
I’ll come back to yoga at home as our friend, that do things I don’t do yet haha the head at the knees, congrats friend haha..
Thank you for supporting us from that addiction of these people.
dre80ParticipantHe walked physically from me, because he was already bored at the end of November, I was sending some messages because of the fear of HPV, it was just fun, but acting like a boyfriend hurt me because I invested, I also had an ambiguity because of his actions not hitting with what he said about not wanting to date, I think that saved me a little bit 🙂 because I was left behind, but invested, stressed and invested .. that hurt me, and STDs, right? He is there in his city, probably with some woman, because he is charming, and he plays that loving shy game. I want to release him in my mind, from indignation with me, yes, stop blaming me, thank you dear. My will was revenge, but the drug, the bad relations, he will have and already has a lot of problems, lack of genuine love, but it belongs to God.
I’m listing my qualities again here in the diary, writing the limits to meet someone this year, and I don’t want to break them, as you said, it will be difficult for someone to abuse us. This pain makes us stronger, at the cost of so much disappointment, you know.
“This year could be the new start you need to make the changes to get rid of it and start living your life. Stop torturing yourself.” I liked his sentence so much, crying here :,)
dre80ParticipantYeah…. I will try to do that haha, laughing of nervous here.
We have to reinforce the negative aspects, someone using drugs is already negative in itself. The abuses, the humiliations, the lack of appreciation. Yes, every day I believe it will be easier for all of us. I will be happy when I exclude him from things, as he has women who have flirted on his social media, grotesque.
dre80ParticipantYes, we have no duty to them, they are adults themselves and responsible for their own decisions! I am responsible for mine, and who comes to dictate my rules? addicted? we cannot allow this anymore.
Me too, having to occupy myself, the bad thing was the rejection, I even stayed there after he talked about the addiction, I got hurt, I should have jumped out, yes, each one has a time limit, and he jumped out long before the age of 5 months, but with 5 he reached the limit of wanting freedom, do not cover yourself too much, but do not allow yourself to enter the wheel of the ramster and comfort zone. I am happy that you sleep better, eat well, and do activity, all these days I went out a lot to walk alone, if you lived in Brazil, I would walk with you both 🙂 to whom I have great empathy and affection.
I have been writing my frustration in the diary, I read aloud, I speak to God and I cry sometimes. It will pass friends … faith.
dre80ParticipantWe have to reinforce the negative aspects, someone using drugs is already negative in itself. The abuses, the humiliations, the lack of appreciation. Yes, every day I believe it will be easier for all of us. I will be happy when I exclude him from things, as he has women who have flirted on his social media, grotesque.
Yeah, I’ll do that… about social media, try to keep distance…it doesn’t update, but I end up getting anxious. 🙂 the best for us.
dre80Participant“what would happen if our partners found this site and read this, whether it would make them wake up and realise what they are doing, or turn it the other way around”
Hello my friend!
I once read a heavy testimony from that blog, to the ex, and he didn’t care much, he pretended to empathize and said that if cocaine was a person he would also kill it (just repeating what the guy in the story said). They are not moved, the sense of empathy really goes away. Even more so in him, that I discovered psychopathy. Well, coming in the new year, I’m going to stay home, and he must be with his family and his older brother, an alcoholic, who he’s already punched in the face. Day 04 I also go back to work, I really understand that working doesn’t help dissipate thoughts so much, right? I stalk his instagram and nothing, he looked at my stories but these 2 days ago and nothing! and on the face he didn’t put anything, I’m looking if someone from his city there, marks him in some photo haha. He only uses it because in DMs he talks to girls, as I saw one day, on the day of the assault that he bit me saying he was unintentionally. Uhum. I hope that you will recover, that we will dispel your worries about them! I was attached to the troubled routine to see him … and not be alone. God help us beloved, to spend more days and they do not take our thoughts.
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